Now this appears to be what I was looking for this morning on PRAVDA - without consciously realising it:

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/08-12-2010/116116-gulf_aden_vortex-0/

Wikileaks, the US secret bunker, the Gulf of Aden Vortex: Contact made?
08.12.2010

Where is this story in the international media? The combined naval might of twenty-seven countries is concentrated off the Somali coast allegedly to fight the poorly armed pirates who continue to act with apparent impunity. Or is there something far, far more serious?
Once again the Wikileaks cables come into play. And what is revealed is terrifying. According to a report allegedly prepared by Admiral Maksimov of Russia's Northern Fleet, in late 2000, a magnetic vortex was discovered in the area of the Gulf of Aden. Russia, the PR China and the USA joined efforts to study what it was but discovered that it defied logic and the laws of physics.

The USA set up a center of operations in Djibouti, which soon became the HQ of the Combined Joint Task Force - Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA) and monitored the vortex, which remained stable from its discovery in November 2000, according to the same report, until late 2008, when it started to expand. This, it appears, caused the USA to send a warning to the rest of the world and in response the following nations poured their military resources into the area:

Royal Australian Navy, Belgian Navy, Bulgarian Navy, Canadian Navy, Peoples Liberation Navy (China), Royal Danish Navy, French Navy, German Navy, Greek Navy, Indian Navy, Islamic Republic of Iran Navy, Italian Navy, Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, Republic of Korea (South Korea) Navy, Royal Malaysian Navy, Royal Netherlands Navy, Pakistan Navy, Portuguese Navy, Royal Saudi Navy, Russian Navy, Republic of Singapore Navy, Spanish Navy, Swedish Navy, Royal Thai Navy, Turkish Navy, British Royal Navy and the United States Navy.

This is the largest naval force to have been assembled in human history. And it has been gathered to defeat what, half a dozen poorly, armed youngsters in cheap speedboats? What is going on?

The photo shows a spiral of light which appeared over Norway on December 9, 2009. So strange was the occurrence, that according to a Wikileaks document presented to President Putin by the GRU (foreign intelligence unit), President Obama and Defence Secretary Gates were ushered into a secret military bunker, (2012 Alice). Why 2012?

This spiral suddenly disappeared, and a month later, the vortex in the Gulf of Aden seemed to project a worm-hole, like the one in this video:

You Tube: Norway Spiral

Notice the hole on seconds 7, 17 and 35.

Researchers* have pointed out that this Norway Spiral appeared at the same time that HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) and the LHC (Large Hadron Collider), CERN, were conducting tests. And how to explain this top secret report (CI/KR = critical Infrastructure and Key Resources) from the US Embassy in Oslo, Norway, sent to USNORTHCOM:

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/indexoslo337.htm

Now, perhaps, we are beginning to understand the campaign against Wikileaks, the Chinese panic against Google and the rest of the hype, for the spider at the center of the Web is not US diplomatic staff mouthing their personal opinions or saying Gaddafy goes around having intellectual conversations with a Ukrainian blonde, but indeed the Gulf of Aden Vortex file, which Assange has in his possession.

Timofei Belov

Pravda.Ru


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JA 1 week ago

Bullshit.

1) The WikiLeaks release does not (so far) include a cable such as the one presented at whatdoesitmean.com. You can check yourself, there's no 09OSLO337 cable. (BTW, that site happens to look like someone collapsed on his/her keyboard from the sheer weight of his/her own incompetence and accidentally hit "upload".)

2) WikiLeaks specifically stated before the releases began that there are no "TOP SECRET" ones among the cables at all.

3) Knowing this one is certainly not from WikiLeaks, the probability that this lipstick on a pig (hehe) is a dumb hoax is so close to 1.0 that I'm unsure 64 bits native will handle the difference.

4) Dear reader who continued this far, I apologise that by means of writing this useless comment I have extended the waste of time you have already had to endure from reading the article.
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Swirley_Twirlers 1 week ago in reply to JA

JA said: "Bullshit"
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Okay. I have questions.

1. How does one know the Wikileak documents are genuine now that Assange's credibility with the 'ladies' is in ruin?

2. Does the USA really have top secret documents that the ROW (rest of the world) doesn't already know about? And how does one verify top secret documents are indeed top secret?

3. See #1

4. How do we know your apology is genuine?

5. Is it permissible for the Pentagon to use top secret document
for bird cage liner as long as the bird can't read?



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JA 1 week ago in reply to Swirley_Twirlers

You make so little sense I'm surprised you got the numbers lined up correctly.
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Swirley_Twirlers 1 week ago in reply to JA

But the numbers are lined up correctly. Now try answering the questions. Please.

The birdies of the world need cage liner and Washington DC has stacks of documents that are all rubber stamped 'Top Secret Super Umbrella' and we're waiting for you to to tell us if they're suitable for bird poop or not.



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anon 1 week ago in reply to Swirley_Twirlers

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JA 1 week ago in reply to anon

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newfags can't triforce.
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Anon 1 week ago in reply to JA

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char 1 day ago in reply to Anon


There's an easy explaination to this, whether you wish to believe it or now, there IS another genocide that is scheduled (that is if it hasn't begun already). And guess who IS invited to this one? Any/all who are NOT in those bunkers! This has been going on for a very long time and IS intentional! Yet again, just like the first time they stepped foot on this land called the USA, they want the land AGAIN! AGAIN, they don't give a damn who owns it, for it will NEVER be truely owned! It's only another pathway to their GREED! Our "freedom" is being taken away and replaced with GREEDOM!
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Swirley_Twirlers 1 day ago in reply to char

A greedy parasite can't live without a host. But the greedy parasite is killing the host anyway, so what difference does it make?
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Lisabellenie 1 week ago

What ever governments are saying in relation to 2012, there seems to be some thing going on that these governments know about, if bunkers have been built, alice 2012, alice in wonderland, alice down the rabbit hole, alice and the looking glass, something is afoot. The one thing to take from all of this is, we the ordinary people are not invited to the party, there is no room for us, we are paying our taxes from our wage slave jobs so governments can sit in bunkers while the rest of us can go to hell, i say thank god for wikileaks, bring it on wikileaks let us know what they know.
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Ivans 5 days ago in reply to Lisabellenie

WikiLeaks is the best thing happened, if everything is just perfect why are they building secret underground bunkers for their asses, such one under airport in Colorado? World is so badly mismanaged that anger is bound to erupt on the large scale.
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Hemlock432 5 days ago in reply to Ivans

Yes, you're right. The world has been grossly mismanaged by elitist fascist capitalist/corporatist managers, the British Crown/Throne & their US/CIA/DIA minions, who all are determined to take humanity to their own selfish conclusion, which is extinction, that the only real hope of human survival is a very large scale and very sudden change which would eliminate the previously mentioned.
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char 1 day ago in reply to Ivans

The reason they are so upset about Wikileaks is that they are FINALLY revealing things that we should have known LONG ago!!! The government has done so many underhanded things to us already! From food to money and not informing us of either! If we knew only half of what they have done, since coming here, they know that Washington would be wiped clean out! They do not want their capitol of GREED to be touched in any way, since it's been so lucrative at OUR expense and in SO MANY ways, including our health! NOTHING is off limits too them!!! Check it out! You may really be surprised at what you find out!
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LargeLeonard 1 week ago

I just made a vortex in my toilet, and this article went down with it.
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JA 1 week ago in reply to LargeLeonard

I heard that where Julian Assange is from, vortices tend to rotate in the opposite direction.
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char 1 day ago in reply to JA

The only ones who won't have a bunker is the ones who are making these people rich! Without us, who will do their dirty work then? I bet they didn't think about that! This land has been destroyed, since they stepped foot on it hundreds of years ago! It's just gotten much, much worse in the past 125+ yrs!
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to char

Yep, you're right. The elites are so deluded, they're convinced themselves they don't need their slaves anymore because they actually believe their Lucifer god is coming back to save them in 2012. Of course that is the fantasy of their deluded minds bolstered by their insane fanatic pagan religion.

Truth is December 21 2012 will come and go with a whimper, and all rational minds know that, so there's no purpose in allowing the nutbar elite to destroy the human race.


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Swirley_Twirlers 1 week ago in reply to JA

Not to worrry! They have underground bunkers at Pine Gap too.
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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to LargeLeonard

There's going to be a sequel all about Defense Secretary Gates' super top secret underground bunker.
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Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey 1 week ago

I fail to see why you people have so many problems with Timofei Belov's piece. He wrote it to give a different read and to create some interest, and in that he has succeeded because it's the piece that got most hits yesterday.

A newspaper has to have a balance of readable pieces, this is an OPINION piece in OPINION, it is not presented as world news.

Where did I accuse my good friend Timofei of lying? He was simply presenting evidence he found. Plus I will have you guys know that the REAL stuff coming out of Wikileaks is yet to be revealed, all you heard till now was chatter.

Timofei is a highly intelligent man. Google his name and you will see he has written about a lot of things.
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JA 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

- Critical comments are valid comments. If the article is crap, the comments will be critical.

- A newspaper does not exist to "give a different read". A newspaper exists to deliver news. You get your "different reads" from fictional works of art - try Dostojevski or something like that. If an article does not stand up to scrutiny, there's absolutely NO value in it "being different". In that case it's simply different AND bullshit.

- A newspaper must balance between FACTS and points of views based on FACTS. It is not correct for a newspaper to just throw every stupid made-up claim in the mix and claim it's news. If there's bullshit in the mix, it's bullshit altogether. There is absolutely NO value in balancing news with bullshit. Bullshit does not belong in the news at all.

- An opinion is not above peer review. Just because you say you "have an opinion" it doesn't mean you and your precious opinion are untouchables. Opinions are not holy. If your opinion is bullshit because you've read a bullshit article and believed it without looking into the matter yourself, don't come whining about respect when people point out the obvious bullshit.

- Intelligence is not a shield against bullshit if one does not use it to check sources.

Best wishes, someone who has actually worked as a reporter and knows how to check sources.
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Douglas 2 days ago in reply to JA

Thats your opinion, and you're part of the major media. You probably were a liberal journalist with a very closed mind. Your comments have 0 value to anything written so far. It doesnt take lines and lines to explain to us what "news" and "newspapers" are. Your defintion of intelligence is based upon preconcieved inside the box facts. Dont try to simplify a definition and properties of intelligence. A doorknobs a doorknob, maybe you should go play with one instead of spilling your inside the box mental media informative bullshit views reguarding nothing but debunking and desire assertions of vindictive shallow fluffy pathetic speeches. Ill bet you were a shitty reporter btw.
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Roy R125 2 days ago in reply to JA

sooooo....do you really think all those military ships are there to protect people from the Somali pirates?...Really? Feel free to explain why you think this.
Or you could just ignore my questions, like most shills would.
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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to JA

- Intelligence is not a shield against bullshit if one does not use it to check sources.

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And your source for particle physics information is...................?!?
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NorCal_Ed 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

Are you Timothy Belov???
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Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey 1 week ago in reply to NorCal_Ed

??????? er....no, he is Russian, I am Brazilian
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NorCal_Ed 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

Ok, and thanks for clarifying.
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Mike_hunt 2 days ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

This is another one of the Sorcha Fall articles. All Timofei does is repeat the original nonsense. Zero credibility, zero interest, zero truth, nothing but wasted electrons, bandwidth and hard drive space. Drives me nuts just thinking someone gobbles up the Faal/Booth crap...
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Praveen 1 week ago

YES, YOU are a BRILLIANT Analyst with a SHARP mind that picks up Information threads that may seem TRIVIAL to OTHERS. Will get back to you on SECRET HARP and its DANGER to WORLD CLIMATE and OZONE Layer HOLES. KEEP up this scientific REPORTING !
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Karstenbeate 1 week ago in reply to Praveen

"Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey and 2 more liked this"

Yes, Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey has always suffered from poor judgement.
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thetnrebel 1 week ago

largest naval force in human history? Either the authur is writing fiction or does not have a clue.. If you took ever warship in the us fleet today and added all the other allies you would not have anywhere near the number that the allies had when they went into france on June 6 1944.. And some of the fleets the US and england had in the pacific the US had over 100 aircraft carriers plus their support ships
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4t5t 1 week ago in reply to thetnrebel

"US had over 100 aircraft carriers ." Not so bright as to light the room are you.
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thetnrebel 1 week ago in reply to 4t5t

Yes the US had over 100 aircraft carriers at end of WWII.. When you add the number of line carriers and jeep carriers.. Maybe you should know facts and leave the insults behind
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Roy R125 2 days ago in reply to thetnrebel

He did say, "the largest naval FORCE". He did not say say the largest number of SHIPS. There's a BIG difference

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thetnrebel 20 hours ago in reply to Roy R125

I looked up information on the naval force the us and england had when Japan gave up...
The us had over 100 carriers in the pacific today they have 11 line carriers.. Could not find the exact number of carriers... But i did find the us navy had 6700 line ships... Which ranged from PT boats to the large carriers... The number over 100 carriers was from a TV show I was watching it was on the history channel and the show was showing the overwelimg [ower of the us navy at the time...

But to say the few ships in the indian ocean was the largest naval force ever is a long way from the truth...

Hey was wondering where are you located?

Have a merry christmas
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petrus 1 week ago

The largest naval force in human history was assemnled for the invasion of Normandy in 1944. There are a lot of navys represented here-but how many at any one time? & with what number & type of naval vessels?

No,I dont think we need worry about any little green men! Its just poor journalism!
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Proteus 1 week ago

whether or not this has anything to do with wikileaks is irrelevant. there is something MAJOR going on in the gulf of aden and has been for some time. if we're expecting "visitors" this is where they will emerge, likely from another dimension or universe. this could possibly have ties to the annunaki.
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Spam 1 week ago

It's amazing the conclusions one can come to when one makes things up.
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Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey 1 week ago

Interesting. What you people do not understand is that a newspaper can have a mix of factual reporting and also pieces like this, which provides a different read.
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Plwhit48 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

This "different read" is total fantasy. If I had read it in a Science Fiction magazine it might have been a funny read.... But in a newspaper?

I guess this is article was induced in the authors mind by some new underground drug..... or written to see just how gullible you are....

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karstenbeate 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

The difficulty is the mix of science fiction and reality. If this article had been published in a comic magazine for teenagers or in a fantasy novel, it wouldn't have been so bad. Then people would have understood from the context that it was pure fantasy.

When Pravda mixes fantasy with reality so freely, doing very little to differentiate between the two, then it becomes very difficult for readers to tell the difference between Pravda bullshit and real world facts.

It would help if Pravda could mark the fantasy articles with "BULLSHIT" in big letters on the top, so that readers can be stopped from actually believing in things like these.

Even better would be if Pravda could stop printing bullshit.
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Guest 1 week ago in reply to karstenbeate

karstenbeate, you must admit that it is entertaining when one writer in Pravda (Bancroft-Hinchey) openly states that what another Pravda writer (Timofei Belov) writes is not based on facts :-)

Here we have one Pravda guy publicly accusing another Pravda guy of lying! :-)

OK, it is not fact-based and rational like you prefer, but it is an amusing soap opera! :-)

After this, I get a less respectful but more humoristic view on Russia :-)

These guys are fun clowns! :-)
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Guest 1 week ago in reply to Guest

Well, it seems that the Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey has changed his mind. If you look at another place in this discussion, you will see that "Praveen" called the Belov-clown a "brilliant analyst" and asked him to "Keep up this scientific reporting", and that the Bancroft-Hinchey-clown clicked "Like" on this. So the Bancroft-Hinchey-clown at that moment obviously agreed with the Belov-clown, before he saw how others reacted to this strange article. The Bancroft-Hinchey-clown obviously has a very "flexible" view on what is science and what is fantasy, changing his view completely within a few hours.

From his picture the Bancroft-Hinchey-clown seems to be a grown up person. Strange...
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Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey 1 week ago in reply to Guest

Go call clown to the thing that dumped you, you insolent little upstart
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Guest 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

No serious journalist would react like you did now. In addition to your incompetence, you have very little self control.
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Swirley_Twirlers 1 week ago in reply to Guest

Look in the mirror.
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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to karstenbeate

And your knowledge of particle physics is what precisely? What happens with all of those ionized particles in the upper atmosphere which are created by HAARP? Do you know?


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Plwhit48 1 week ago in reply to Hemlock432

How about all the ill effects of Soviet Scalar weapons? Do you know?

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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to Plwhit48

What 'scalar weapons'?
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Karstenbeate 2 days ago in reply to Hemlock432

"Scalar weapons" is a term used by conspiracy theorists. It is unclear what is meant by this term, but terms like "Tesla Lightenings", "bioelectronic weapons", "gravity weapons", "electrogravitational weapons" and similar unseen, untested and undocumented items tend to pop up in "discussions" about the "scalar weapons".

The origin of the term is not known. Some early usages in from Soviet propaganda, where they used these terms to boast about their military strengths in a way that could not be checked, and in Western science fiction and mystery groups, where they needed some pseudo-science to dream up stories.
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Martin Alfven 2 days ago in reply to Karstenbeate

Hi.

Just a note, but whether you give any credence to them or not, the origin of the concept of scalar weapons lies in the theories of Col. Thomas Bearden, among others.

Cheers
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Martin Alfven

Bingo!
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Kaleb 1 week ago in reply to Hemlock432

It becomes lightning.
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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to Kaleb

Helium and hydrogen lightning. Now that's a novel idea. Explain yourself.
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Bz17 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

The article, I suppose, is under the opinion section, this journalist must know that no-one will ever take him seriously again.....
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Robertgunning 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

I am sure you are aware that the slovakian word pravda means truth in english.
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Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey 1 week ago in reply to Robertgunning

I wasn't, but thank you. The Russian word is the same.
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JA 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

As I said in another reply, being an opinion or "a different read" do not elevate any claim above peer review. Bullshit stinks, bullshit sinks.
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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to JA

And your peer review of CERN particle physics is what precisely?
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Karstenbeate 2 days ago in reply to Hemlock432

Hemlock, when really strange claims are made, the burden of proof is not on the readers but on the ones who make the strange claims. If I say that Neptune is made of Cheddar cheese, that does not mean that it is true until somebody has proved that it is false. Rather, anybody making such a strange claim has to prove or at least prepare some very good arguments why a planet should be made from cheese.

You will have HUGE difficulties finding anybody from the CERN or HAARP projects saying that the CERN and HAARP experiments could influence each other at all.

If anybody claims that there is a connection, then that person should explain to us the mechanisms involved, or refer to some trustworthy source, or show some statistics, or in some other way indicate that there is some influence. What the article writer has done here, is bullshit. No proof is given, and several claims that are obviously false are used as arguments in the conspiracy theory.

Having an open mind is OK, but being skeptical to things that look like nonsense is also OK.
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Karstenbeate

You've made it amply clear that you've no knowledge about particle physics.
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Bob 1 week ago

Timofei Belov was the same stupid Pravda writer that some weeks ago claimed that we have made contact with intelligent beings on a planet in another solar system. The reality he based this on was that there was a very short unexpected pattern in a radio signal from space some years ago. This person is able to make some extremely shocking conclusions based on approximately nothing! :-)

http://english.pravda.ru/scien.../

Be careful before you believe this guy! :-)
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Robertgunning 1 week ago in reply to Bob

Level of journalism from pravda is so pathetic, the only reason I come to this site is for a laugh at how these lower grade reporters (obviously unable to get a real job) perpetuate misinformation and totally unsubstantiated opinion trying to peddle lies as fact. Shut this garbage down.
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Hemlock432 5 days ago in reply to Robertgunning

Level of journalism from pravda is so pathetic
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Then go back to FOX network and ignore Pravda.
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Indian 1 week ago in reply to Bob

in order to multinational, multimillion firm like pravda to agree to put this on their WORLD wide web, there has to be some thing in it, what do you do? flip burgers in McDonalds? what is your claim? only WORDS you can write or publish is on some comments or forums like this, YOU CAN'T produce any article for ANY news paper, which they will publish,

GO FIGURE, YOU ARE AN IDIOT bob
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JA 1 week ago in reply to Indian

This so-called news site is all about making money. That doesn't require factual news; fiction usually sells much better.
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Swirley_Twirlers 1 week ago in reply to JA

Are you talking about Pravda or FOX? BTW, how much did you pay Pravda for reading the web site?
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Neelyjohns 1 week ago in reply to Swirley_Twirlers

I certainly hope he paid nothing to read it, because I didn't pay anything. The better question is how much did their advertisers pay to have their product/service promoted on this article.
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Swirley_Twirlers 1 week ago in reply to Neelyjohns

Well, it's quite likely that the advertising bill was sent to London via Washington DC, aside from the consternation and gnashing of teeth, which
you get to pay to your dentist as a deductible.

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Bz17 1 week ago in reply to Indian

If i'm not mistaken the translation of pravda is truth.... How ironic.
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Bob 1 week ago in reply to Indian

Indian, you claim that because Pravda has much money, what they write must be correct!? What a strange claim! This is equally strange as when Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey claims that what he writes has high quality because he owns several apartments. This is especially weird for writers and readers for a half-marxist publication like Pravda - according to marxists, it is usually bad to have money and those who have money should be killed :-)

My own criterion for what is correct is not based on who has the most money. Rather, it is based on what can be checked with reality and what makes sense.

I don't really see why my occupation is relevant. Could you please explain to me why you are asking me about this?

Your insults probably say more about you than about me.

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Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey 1 week ago in reply to Bob

apartments? So what? And what about all the charity work I do, what about the orphanages in Africa, THE MISSIONS, THE EDUCATION PROJECTS, THE CULTURAL PROJECTS... what about the project to help women victims of violence? Right, no mention of those, just "apartments".

66% of the properties I have bought, I have GIVEN AWAY. You do the same, and we can talk man to man.
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Plwhit48 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

So you give and support charity, an excellent human trait.... But that doesn't make you an authority on anything my friend......

Whoa!!! talk man to man, and you are a professional author replying to someone?

Sorta childish IMHO


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Guest 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

When faced by criticism, you insist on talking about something else :-) Pathetic :-)
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Swirley_Twirlers 1 week ago in reply to Guest

Do you do any charitable work, aside from amusing the denizens of the Pravda discussion boards?
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News Junkie 3 days ago

Pravda = fail

These days it's quite difficult and work-intensive to stay informed especially when sifting through US biased or spun news (lets name FOX and MSNBC).

To obtain a (hopefully) more objective view, one is compelled to cruise the net and look at other news media (BBC, and other European sources) leading to a somewhat broader picture. Pravda used to be part of that browsing habit, especially when foreign policy issues were concerned.

Articles like these, even if the are clearly marked opinion pieces, tarnish the news value and reputability of Pravda and put it on par with the National Enquirer and similar tabloids.

Personal mileage may vary.
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Guest 2 days ago in reply to News Junkie

Try www.themoscowtimes.com for frequent news about Russia.

Go to www.novayagazeta.ru to see a newspaper that dares to write things that Putin doesn't like. Their English section is not well maintained, so consider using Google Translate to read the the Russian part instead.

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News Junkie 1 day ago in reply to Guest

Thank you for the links. Duly noted. I'm ok with Russian text if it doesn't get overly sophisticated.
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to News Junkie

BBC

Objective?!?! hahahahaha! The mouthpiece of the British Crown/Throne NWO.

It was the BBC that announced the collapse of Bldg. 7 *before* it happened.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ar...

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News Junkie 22 hours ago in reply to Hemlock432

debunked - commentator was in front of a green-screen using stock footage. the live-label was misleading though.
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Hemlock432 21 hours ago in reply to News Junkie

Irrelevant. It's hard to believe you're that stupid. But you said it.

Sheesh.


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Roy R125 2 days ago in reply to News Junkie

I'll mention for you. that this IS JUST YOUR OPINION.
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News Junkie 1 day ago in reply to Roy R125

"I'll mention for you. that this IS JUST YOUR OPINION."

What part of "Personal mileage may vary" was too complex for you to understand?
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NorCal_Ed 1 week ago

A very similar article has been posted at many places on the internet. The pictures, also from other sites, are simple photoshop stuff. If there is a "magnetic vortex" then why aren't there navigational advisories in the gulf???

Suggest that this may be based on a 2000 incident, but has been glorified and expanded in scope for the internet consumption.

My opinions is not directed at Timofei Belov, he seem to have simply repeated what is circulating, but doesn't make it true.
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springs 1 week ago in reply to NorCal_Ed

The Russians did send out a navigation advisory to their Air force & commercial airliners after the two France airliners flew through this magnetic vortex and crashed in the Atlantic ocean. You can find it in the archives at naturalnews.com /

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Maxpain12 4 days ago

I think folks are getting too fired up over this publication. After all I have noticed Pravda seems to post some articles that have a high degree of personal bias when it comes to authoring the article. It definitely has entrainment value if you consider it as such. Not worth getting all rilled up and personal about it though.
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Guest 2 days ago in reply to Maxpain12

The problem is that many people actually believe everything that is written in Pravda. This gives rise to hate, intolerance, superstitions and much more.

If nobody protests against lies, there will be more and more lies.
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Guest

Again, our qualifications in particle physics is.............???


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Guest 1 week ago

There are no such things as Martians. I am one, so I ought to know. Oops, that was suppose to be a secret.
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CamoKhan 1 week ago

Go Anunnaki Go!!
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Batteryoperated 4 days ago

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Ld Elon 4 days ago

You know, that land, is of the children of Osirus
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Karstenbeate 1 week ago

The spiral over Norway has a very simple explanation: It was a malfunctioning of a Russian Bulava rocket, launched by the Russian submarine Dmitry Donskoy, The malfunctioning had absolutely nothing to do with HAARP or CERN. Rather, it was a mechanical problem that occurred during the separation of the third stage of the rocket. The Bulava rockets have failed before.

You can read more about it in Pravda. The same story has appeared in serious media all over the world.
http://english.pravda.ru/russi.../


The provided link to whatdoesitmean.com provides much more nonsense. The author must really have had fun when he connected the Bulava rocket to snow falling over Britain and the ancient Egyptian godess Wadjet, being the origin of our Christmas celebration on December 25 :-)

In the future I would recommend readers to be cautious when they see the name Timofei Belov connected to an article. He seems to be a really bad journalist, copying things like this uncritically from the net.

Why is Pravda printing stupid bullshit? What is the point of these conspiracy theories?

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Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey 1 week ago in reply to Karstenbeate

yes, quite...and it happened to coincide with the CERN tests that malfunctioned and when the machine had to be shut down
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Karstenbeate 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

The Bulova rockets have failed many times. If one of these times happens on the same day as a malfunctioning at CERN, what does that prove?

Both the Bulova rockets and the CERN experiments have had so many problems that it would be really strange if they should never have problems on the same day.

You are desperately searching for arguments for your wild conspiracy theory.
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Karstenbeate

Your knowledge of particle physics is what?!?
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Plwhit48 1 day ago in reply to Hemlock432

You sound like a broken record player.... particle physics...... you play with yourself while typing it on your keyboard?


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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Plwhit48

Instead hurling inane comments, please enlighten us with your knowledge of particle physics. We're waiting for you to say something intelligent. Anything -- anything except your childish drivel!!
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JA 1 week ago in reply to Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

I cannot imagine for one second that any single event might ever coincide with another one. My god, has the world gone mad?
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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to JA

Do you know anything about particle physics?
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Janoska62 5 days ago

scary... really very scary. no one in their right mind can think that we will ever have any sort of disclosure about any of this, or any alien life forms visiting us. i am not a fatallist, but we are truly on the edge of the "abyss".
unfortunately Assange will not be released untill he will be scared enough not to release any of information regarding this, or alien contact/visitors.
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aa 5 days ago

If you want to know detailed science about the Norway Spiral see Richard C. Hoagland's site:
http://enterprisemission.com/
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Jim McClarin 1 week ago

"Spiral appeared at the same time that HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) and the LHC (Large Hadron Collider), CERN, were conducting tests."

You don't build hugely expensive science facilities to NOT conduct tests. You might as well say "at the same time as the pope was breathing and the Manhattan subways were running." IOW these is no significance to these observations.

I'd like to see some documentation about the vortex. Sounds most interesting if true.
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Billy 5 days ago in reply to Jim McClarin

yup, I also believe some of the article is true, coz I know about the HAARP from reliable sources
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Guest 2 days ago in reply to Billy

Yes, there is a HAARP project. So that word is true.
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Guest

Please explain how the telecommunications companies profit from bouncing microwaves around the globe from the HAARP ion lensing of Earth's atmosphere.
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Guest 1 week ago in reply to Jim McClarin

This is the total amount of reliable documentation available about the vortex:
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Michael Bæk 1 week ago

Very entertaining. Not true, but still very entertaining.
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Hemlock432 1 week ago

Swamp gas.
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Mack 1 week ago

What a crock of BS!!! There are many natural anamolies in the earth's geomagnetic field. If there is a "vortex" in the Gulf of Aden it's just another natural anamoly. Get a grip people.
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Mack

Your scientific evidence is................?
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Guest 1 week ago

REPENT!! THE END IS NEAR!!
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Korz53 1 week ago in reply to Guest

No need to repent if the end is at hand. Repent ! for the Kingdom of God is at hand. Now that is a good reason to repent as to not be judged by a righteous God for willful sinning on this Earth as Man. One repents as to begin a new in a wholesome good and righteous life before Judgment day comes.
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Hemlock432 19 hours ago in reply to Korz53

You're right. Every person has had a choice to listen to and follow the God Consciousness. It is useless to repent if the end is near as the time to lead a good life is past and eternal damnation is at hand for those who chose a life that was against God's love of all life in the Universe.

So be it.
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Abdju 1 week ago

The fail. It's so bad it hurts. Seriously, Pravda needs to fire someone, urgently.
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beep 1 week ago

can you give us the link to the origonal cable so we can see it
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Robertgunning 1 week ago in reply to beep

Can't do that... It doesn't exist and most likely never has
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WiseGuy 1 week ago

The "spiral" over Norway was a failed missile launch.

Come on Pravda, report the news if you want to be reputable.
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Sasha 2 days ago in reply to WiseGuy

Interestingly, even Pravda has reported about the failed missile launch seen from Norway. So while Pravda knows what is was, Pravda does also NOT know what it was :-)

This web site has a huge problem with credibility.
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Sasha

Uh, admit it. You don't know.
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Sukumar 1 week ago

what a load of crap. Everyone is not as stupid as you
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Latinjoy1 1 week ago

there are videos on you tube showing ufos entering the vortex in high speed. look for
"72kyros" :)
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Sasha 1 week ago

Pravda asks "Where is this story in the international media?"

The answer is: No serious person believes it!

This story includes a reference to the HAARP research project, just like another silly story from Pravda where it was claimed that the earthquakes at Haiti were made made using these satellites. No trace of proof was shown.
http://english.pravda.ru/scien.../
Why doesn't anybody else believe this? Because there is no sign at all that it is true. It appears to be just bullshit.

Pravda has extremely little credibility.

There are some interesting articles in Pravda, but the overall impression is destroyed by all the stupidity in between.
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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to Sasha

Pravda has extremely little credibility
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Again, your knowledge of particle physics is....?!?

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Sasha 1 week ago in reply to Hemlock432

My knowledge of particle physics above average I believe, thank you. Some of the courses for my master degree were about various areas of physics.

Why do you ask? Because the HAARP research project was mentioned? If you know anything about particle physics, then you will know that at the frequencies used in the HAARP project, the particle nature of the radiation is not significant and the effects are much better modeled as waves.

And if you know anything about physics, you will of course understand that all strange conspiracy theories made around the HAARP project are bullshit.
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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to Sasha

Can you explain to our viewing audience what happens to the ions in the upper atmosphere which are generated by HAARP?

Thanks!
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Me 1 day ago in reply to Hemlock432

Can you pass me the vaseline please?
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Hemlock432 1 day ago in reply to Me

Send your request to Al Gore. :)
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Guest 1 week ago in reply to Hemlock432

The HAARP project is very open to visitors. Guest researchers from all over the world are welcome to come and visit in order to see what is done, participate in the work, or even suggest their own experiments.

If it was known exactly what happened to the ions, then it wouldn't be necessary to do the experiments. The experiments are conducted in order to find out what happens by measuring the effects.

The effects on the atmosphere in a very limited volume of the ionosphere are much fainter than the limit from the sun. For any observer some distance away, the effects from the sun will be extremely may trillions of times stronger than the effects from HAARP.

HAARP has been the focus of conspiracy theory makers for a long time, including a Pravda writer that spread silly accusations that the HAARP project was used to make earthquakes. Interestingly, no serious researchers have found any reason for why we should believe in any of this rubbish. If any person would be able to prove that even one single of these conspiracy theories were true, then that person would instantly become world famous, but it isn't happening.

These conspiracy theories, spread by Pravda and other unserious publications, are bullshit.

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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to Guest

Okay, now that we've cleared up the fact you know nothing about physics, maybe you can explain what is happening at the CERN project, eh?
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Guest 1 week ago in reply to Hemlock432

You refer to "the CERN project". That is an unclear reference; CERN has lots of projects. Conspiracy theory makers have been particularly interested in the Large Hadron Collider the last few months, so maybe this is what you refer to?

The Large Hadron Collider is placed in a tunnel around 175 meters below the terrain, so that the radiation from the sun shall influence the experiments as little as possible.

The HAARP equipment produces effects that are very much fainter than the effects of the radiation from the sun, in a relatively small volume, at an enormous distance away from the CERN project, so the effect from HAARP on the CERN project will not be possible to record even with the best of detectors. The signal to noise ratio (with the signal in your conspiracy theory coming from HAARP and one source of noise being the sun) will just so incredibly, incredibly small that it is approximately unimaginable.

Everybody who knows anything about physics just laugh about these conspiracy theories. They have been around for a long time, and have never been shown to have any piece of truth in them.

Your ignorance of physics does not spread a good impression of yourself. Your insults further damage your public image.


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Hemlock432 1 week ago in reply to Guest

Your ignorance of physics does not spread a good impression of yourself. Your insults further damage your public image.
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Okee dokee.... looks like you're projecting. One of your cohorts earlier in the thread told us that ions created by HAARP become lightning. Is that correct?
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Colin Bennett 3 hours ago

Nice mix of complete crap. Anything from Kerry of Project Camelot is a scientological scam. Add Pravda and anything goes.
Colin Bennett
Editor
The New Fortean Times
www.combat-diaries.co.uk

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Dinitz 1 day ago

It has not been found within the WL cables and may be a hoax. No top-seret cables have been leaked so far.
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Young749 1 week ago

Do these 27 nations really think their weapons are anything compared to the power of the Aden Vortex. The might of man is so ridiculous in comparison. God will destroy those who are and continue to destroy the earth. They have very little time left. Maybe 10 years.
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Hemlock432 5 days ago in reply to Young749

They have very little time left. Maybe 10 years.
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Uh, due to circumstances beyond god and anyone's control, the current Earth situation is much more dire than most know. If humanity wants to survive they can't waste anymore time on the US global fascist corporatist world domination plan, which will effectively stymie technological development and create such global economic hardship, that humanity will not have enough time to save itself.

So, I'd say the US/UK and their elitist Satanists have less than 6 months.

We simply can not devote any more time to convincing the mindless that their situation is more dire than they know or wait for their self-collapse to happen.

They gotta go NOW.


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