https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1VFW8C5Pc

anyway, what I'm actually interested in...is that marr/macron interview...let me have a look on youtube...I see...ha ha ha...and it's the two fingers up, from the French, marr....go figure:

 

followed by the fist...

 

and then the 'two-finger-salute' again:

 

 

followed by....hmmm.....now what do you think that macron might be signalling by the following gesture?....go figure: