i suppose that we were expecting it to be 'within the context' of NASA....the guys were saying things around ' a bit like the engine fuselage of a...' but then they got stuck...

and it turned out to be the handle of an old-fashioned drinks flask...

the nature of the discussion became 'layered'...yes mcdonald and co then began to talk about FLASKS and VACUUMS....but you see what we were being 'covertly told'...the nature of the deception...of the entirety of NASA and from the beginning....