...and my point of view, regarding the whole 'clump'?...not much, if any difference between the two camps....in relation to my own safety and security and yes, it had all begun in the 60s, dear reader...and a certain photograph of a 'cult' family - was chosen to accompany the whole horrorshow, that I am now sitting on, so to speak - in this flat, whilst trying hard not to get dragged into it all etc etc...go figure: