...and what else?...oh I remember, now....gill and I were to track and trace who had been the uber etc etc....regarding that whole 'old gym' horrorshow, in b'ham....a 'chicken' kiev number.....5715, as far as I can recall...gill was to say that he would inform the CIA who were then to code it out, upon google...something like that, at any rate....anyway, gill was to tell me to also make a note of the number just in case etc etc....go figure: