.....and what else, dazzlenation?...'a game of tennis'...something that i could beat daldry at - as a young teenager...and yes, none of this is 'funny' as it turns out....anyway, daldry had wanted to remind me of a certain training session - that grandpa clayton had taken me to - late 70s....oh and according to grandpa - i'd done really well, in it...shooting balls over the net (a few millimetres over) and accurately...unlike daldry etc etc...who could also shoot 'hard' over the net but not accurately....go figure:

and there's more - regarding those like martin gill - growing up, perhaps?