oh and if you would like to view what eliza manningham-buller had in her 'box of bees', let us say....LOL...see previous notes upon Sonia fisher and that BBC reference...then you need only have a look at the site...that younger, petrol nell et al...had constructed in which to 'save' all of their programming materials...I've cherry-picked a few of the images - see below:

http://www.cyber-heritage.co.uk/eclipse/oldie.htm

oh and let me see...remember mark r programming Cameron as 'captain cac'?...well, buller was to return from petrol nell's...to McGowan's 'house of hock'....see previous notes upon all of that...to tell him that Cameron had annoyed her so much that she was going to put a car bomb etc etc...as it goes, eh?