...and yes, they'd all called themselves 'ogres', dazzlenation...at one point or another.....that shotley 'admiral' had had a headdress of sorts....grandpa clayton used to mispronounce the word....which used to make sylvia laugh....he used to say "org" instead of "ogre"....."i am an org".....oh and sylvia was to titter (whilst living upon south street, manningtree) that the children next door were frightened of her and oscar....apparently the children used to call them 'ogres'.....go figure:
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