gary, which gary?...see previous post...oh I see...I need to be looking at this 'slide' and so my next question is...'gary caplin' - Robert?....go figure:

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/safety-and-efficiency-in-the-nhs

let me see...I do not think that Jeremy hunt had phrased the following, as well as he might have done because it sounds like etc etc....go figure: