and david manners? hmmm...let me see....cathy and her 'peacock' design for a Sainsbury's durable woven shopping bag...along with a reference to that 'ray fishwick lookalike'...i.e. the main 'peacock spider' in Clacton....seated in THE OLIVE TREE - see previous notes upon 'all of that'...."one of bobby's mob" replies BI ONLINE....go figure:
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